From goffi at goffi.org  Tue Feb  4 19:56:34 2014
From: goffi at goffi.org (Goffi)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:56:34 +0100
Subject: [dev] [en] important updates
Message-ID: <d4b77f824bf35190778ce234b3ac582f@mail.goffi.org>

english below

Salut à tous,

Il y a eu d'importantes modifications dans le c?ur de SàT, quelques 
remarques à leur sujet:

		- grâce à Link Mauve, Libervia se lance désormais comme un plugin 
d'application Twisted, ce qui permet notamment d'utiliser des arguments 
au lancement (pour le moment on peut uniquement changer de port avec 
l'argument --port). Pour lancer Libervia, assurez vous que votre 
PYTHONPATH est correct, mettez vous à la racine de Libervia et tapez
		$ twistd libervia
		tout simplement. Twistd -n libervia le lancera en premier plan, 
twistd -b libervia en mode de débogage.

		- XMLUI a été retravaillé en profondeur, ce qui devrait faciliter son 
implémentation dans les nouvelles interfaces

		- les paramètres de Wix sont désormais implémentés uniquement avec 
XMLUI

		- de même les transports (gateways) sont entièrement géré côté 
backend, le code côté interfaces a été supprimé

		- un conteneur AdvancedListContainer permet d'afficher des rangées de 
widgets. Il a été utilisé pour réimplémenter les transports côté 
backend, et pour la recherche dans un annuaire.

		- /!\ Urwid SàText doit être mis à jour pour pouvoir gérer ce 
conteneur

		- il est désormais possible de configurer un salon MUC. Pour le 
moment le menu n'a été implémenté que dans Primitivus, mais c'est très 
facile d'implémenter ailleurs.

		- les menus additionnels sont implémentés dans Libervia, et s'affiche 
selon le paramètre « security_limit » indiqué (il fonctionne comme pour 
les paramètres). La valeur de Libervia a été montée à 5.

++
Goffi


---


G'day everybody,

There have been major changes in SàT, some note about them:

		- thanks to Link Mauve, Libervia is now a Twisted application plugin, 
that allow the use of command line arguments (only --port command so 
far). To launch Libervia, be sure to have PYTHONPATH correctly setted, 
go to Libervia's root directory, and enter:
		$ twistd Libervia
		Twistd -n libervia will launch it in foreground, twistd -b will 
launch debug mode.

		- XMLUI has been refactored, that will make a lot easier its 
implementation in new frontends

		- Wix parameters are now only done with XMLUI

		- in the same spirit, gateways are full implemented in backend, 
frontend code has been removed

		- an AdvancedListContainer allow to show ranges of widgets. It has 
been used to reimplements transports in backend, and for directory 
search.

		- /!\ Urwid SàText must be updated to managed this container

		- it's now possible to configure a MUC room. So far, only Primitivus 
show the menu, but it's really easy to add it elsewhere.

		- additional menus are implemented in Libervia, and there are shown 
according to "security_limit" argument (same way as for parameters). 
Default value in Libervia is now 5.

++
Goffi



From souliane at mailoo.org  Mon Feb 10 14:52:17 2014
From: souliane at mailoo.org (Adrien)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:52:17 +0100
Subject: [dev] [PATCH][EN] radiocol, atom feed...
Message-ID: <52F8D991.4050403@mailoo.org>

Hi,

please find attached some patches. There are 2 files for sat and 3 for 
libervia.

sat_1_room_games: better synchronization for radiocol (with a "jump to 
time" information when you leave and re-enter the room). Added some tests.

sat_2_atom: new bridge method "getLastGroupBlogsAtom" to get the Atom 
feed of blog posts. Manage raw/rich/xhtml data for content/title in 
plugins groupblog, XEP-0071 and XEP-0277 (see details in the changeset 
comment). 2 bugfixes including one that you may want to forget, it's a 
strange issue at connection time and there may be a better solution.

lib_1_muc: changes for radiocol + misc small things.

lib_2_atom: Atom feed for blogposts is accessible from 
<host>/blog/<user>/atom.xml + display titles in the static blog page.

lib_3_contenteditable_status: use the HTML 5 "contenteditable" property 
to modify the user status message.

Some patches to follow will focus on text editor refactorization, more 
use of "contenteditable" and a wysiwyg editor prototype.

Regards,
Adrien
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From robotux at debian.org  Wed Feb 12 16:02:33 2014
From: robotux at debian.org (Thomas Preud'homme)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:02:33 +0800
Subject: [dev] [EN] script distribute_setup.py outdated
Message-ID: <8758866.Th6Jo0aWzo@brano>

Hi everybody,

we, the SàT maintainers [0] recently run into a problem in Debian due to the 
combination of an old distribute_setup.py script with a recent setuptools. 
setuptools has changed and so the old distribute_setup.py found in SàT and 
urwid_satext doesn't detect that setuptools is already installed. An updated 
distribute_setup.py script can be found at [1]. It should be a drop in 
replacement of the actual one. Not much seems to have changed except that it 
checks the version of setuptools and acts accordingly.

[0] Matteo (in CC) and I in this case
[1] http://python-distribute.org/distribute_setup.py

We solved this in Debian by doing a backup of the old file and then copying the 
new one before doing anything. When the action being done is over, we copy 
back the old file in place so that none of the tool we use complain about the 
upstream code having changed. We would be very happy without this extra logic. 
:)

Best regards,

Thomas


From souliane at mailoo.org  Thu Feb 13 16:20:17 2014
From: souliane at mailoo.org (Adrien)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:20:17 +0100
Subject: [dev] [PATCH][EN] more patches for microblogs
Message-ID: <52FCE2B1.5010508@mailoo.org>

Hi,

this should be the last changes regarding microblogs to prepare the 
version 0.4 (beside bug fixes). I will point out in this message the 
things that could have a side effect for you to double check.

Like on Monday, I separated the patches in several files, again 3 for 
libervia and 2 for sat... there are not updated versions of the previous 
files! You need to apply first the files from monday and then those 
ones, date and numerotation in the filenames should make it easy to not 
be confused in the order.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
20140213_sat_1_syntax
These are small fixes regarding the syntax conversion. Please double 
check this changeset:

plugin XEP_0277: check for XHTML namespace and decapsulate the content 
from the main div container

And especially that other one:

memory (sqlite): the result of pickle.dumps in addToHistory must be 
converted to unicode for the special characters to be stored.

Things are working but it modifies how the extra field is written in the 
history table. Without this change I was receiving an error saying 
explicitely that 8bits encoding was not enough and that we should use 
unicode. This was happening when you send a one2one message from the 
rich text editor, because the rich content is stored in the extra field 
and pickle.dumps returns a str, not a unicode.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
20140213_sat_2_wysiwyg_img
Small fix for html2text to not break the url and a method addURLToImage 
to makes the image clickable. I also added the "image" button definition
for the rich content editor.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
20140213_lib_1_mblogs_refactorization
A lot of refactorization affecting the microblogs, rich text editor
and status panel. URLs are displayed in the status. I replaced the
overwriting of __getattr__ in MicroblogEntry by some properties.
Blog titles are handled.

Most of the changes comes from the fact that MicroblogEntry is
now delegating the display/edit related stuff to the LightTextEditor
and RichTextEditor (both inherit from BaseTextEditor).

RichTextEditor does also contain a LightTextEditor which is used for
displaying the entry, and in the following patches I also use it
for the wysiwyg edition.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
20140213_lib_2_wysiwyg
A checkbox has been added in the rich text toolbar, so you can toggle
between editing by hand with your chosen syntax or wysiwyg/preview.
When you click the button, the command are applied on the selection. If
no text is selected, most (all?) of the buttons will have no effect.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
20140213_lib_3_image_width
Small fixes and set a fixed max-width property for the image within the
microblog bubble. These images are clickable (when in display mode).

That's it :)
Regards,
Adrien
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From souliane at mailoo.org  Fri Feb 14 21:32:57 2014
From: souliane at mailoo.org (Adrien)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:32:57 +0100
Subject: [dev] [PATCH][EN] fix groupblog main entries
Message-ID: <52FE7D79.9000202@mailoo.org>

Hi,

I noticed some errors on libervia.org, because of invalid entries in the 
sat pubsub database. These are some main items that are missing their 
comments node information (the "link" element).

This patch checks for the items when they are received and if the info 
is missing, it will fix it by updating the entry with the link element 
that was missing.

Regards,
Adrien
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From souliane at mailoo.org  Mon Feb 17 12:31:46 2014
From: souliane at mailoo.org (Adrien)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:31:46 +0100
Subject: [dev] [PATCH] Re:  [EN] script distribute_setup.py outdated
In-Reply-To: <8758866.Th6Jo0aWzo@brano>
References: <8758866.Th6Jo0aWzo@brano>
Message-ID: <5301F322.9000005@mailoo.org>

Hi Thomas,

thanks for the information and the suggested solution. The concerned 
file will be updated on the repository, you will appear as the changeset 
author (if that's ok for you).

Regards,
Adrien

On 02/12/2014 04:02 PM, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> we, the SàT maintainers [0] recently run into a problem in Debian due to the
> combination of an old distribute_setup.py script with a recent setuptools.
> setuptools has changed and so the old distribute_setup.py found in SàT and
> urwid_satext doesn't detect that setuptools is already installed. An updated
> distribute_setup.py script can be found at [1]. It should be a drop in
> replacement of the actual one. Not much seems to have changed except that it
> checks the version of setuptools and acts accordingly.
>
> [0] Matteo (in CC) and I in this case
> [1] http://python-distribute.org/distribute_setup.py
>
> We solved this in Debian by doing a backup of the old file and then copying the
> new one before doing anything. When the action being done is over, we copy
> back the old file in place so that none of the tool we use complain about the
> upstream code having changed. We would be very happy without this extra logic.
> :)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas
>
> _______________________________________________
> dev mailing list
> dev at goffi.org
> http://lists.goffi.org/listinfo/dev
>

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From souliane at mailoo.org  Mon Feb 17 12:35:39 2014
From: souliane at mailoo.org (Adrien)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:35:39 +0100
Subject: [dev] [PATCH - fixed] Re: [EN] script distribute_setup.py outdated
In-Reply-To: <5301F322.9000005@mailoo.org>
References: <8758866.Th6Jo0aWzo@brano> <5301F322.9000005@mailoo.org>
Message-ID: <5301F40B.60906@mailoo.org>

Sorry,

forget the file attached in my previous message. That's the good one 
with the changed author.

Regards,
Adrien

On 02/17/2014 12:31 PM, Adrien wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> thanks for the information and the suggested solution. The concerned
> file will be updated on the repository, you will appear as the changeset
> author (if that's ok for you).
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 02/12/2014 04:02 PM, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> we, the SàT maintainers [0] recently run into a problem in Debian due
>> to the
>> combination of an old distribute_setup.py script with a recent
>> setuptools.
>> setuptools has changed and so the old distribute_setup.py found in SàT
>> and
>> urwid_satext doesn't detect that setuptools is already installed. An
>> updated
>> distribute_setup.py script can be found at [1]. It should be a drop in
>> replacement of the actual one. Not much seems to have changed except
>> that it
>> checks the version of setuptools and acts accordingly.
>>
>> [0] Matteo (in CC) and I in this case
>> [1] http://python-distribute.org/distribute_setup.py
>>
>> We solved this in Debian by doing a backup of the old file and then
>> copying the
>> new one before doing anything. When the action being done is over, we
>> copy
>> back the old file in place so that none of the tool we use complain
>> about the
>> upstream code having changed. We would be very happy without this
>> extra logic.
>> :)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dev mailing list
>> dev at goffi.org
>> http://lists.goffi.org/listinfo/dev
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dev mailing list
> dev at goffi.org
> http://lists.goffi.org/listinfo/dev
>

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From robotux at celest.fr  Mon Feb 17 16:21:15 2014
From: robotux at celest.fr (Thomas Preud'homme)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:21:15 +0800
Subject: [dev] [PATCH - fixed] Re: [EN] script distribute_setup.py
	outdated
In-Reply-To: <5301F40B.60906@mailoo.org>
References: <8758866.Th6Jo0aWzo@brano> <5301F322.9000005@mailoo.org>
 <5301F40B.60906@mailoo.org>
Message-ID: <1396837.yjJ3laYUh4@brano>

Le lundi 17 février 2014, 12:35:39 Adrien a écrit :
> 
> forget the file attached in my previous message. That's the good one
> with the changed author.

Ok

> On 02/17/2014 12:31 PM, Adrien wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > 
> > thanks for the information and the suggested solution. The concerned
> > file will be updated on the repository, you will appear as the changeset
> > author (if that's ok for you).

I don't mind either way. Do as it pleases you. :)

Best regards,

Thomas


From goffi at goffi.org  Fri Feb 28 22:43:58 2014
From: goffi at goffi.org (Goffi)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:43:58 +0100
Subject: [dev] v 0.4.x + ce qui va venir / v 0.4.x + what come next
Message-ID: <058fd9340e13a23c206f166d76403c56@mail.goffi.org>

english below

Salut,

on a été tellement pris par la sortie de la 0.4 qu'on n'a même pas 
pensé à l'annonce ici. Salut à Toi v0.4.0 (0.4.1 même avec quelques 
petites corrections pour l'installation) est donc sortie, et marque une 
grosse avancée dans le projet (cf annonce). Nous espérons la version 
grand public pour l'été.
Maintenant que la version est sortie, nous allons nous concentrer 
principalement sur l'aspect sécurité.

annonce: http://www.goffi.org/post/2014/02/26/Salut-a-Toi-0.4.0
site officiel (nouvelle adresse): http://www.salut-a-toi.org

Goffi

--

G'day,

we were so busy that we didn't think about announcing the release here. 
Salut à Toi v0.4.0 (0.4.1 actually, with some fixes for the 
installation) is indeed out, and show a big step in the project (see the 
announce). We hope to have a public proof release for this summer.
Now that this version is out, we will concentrate for the next release 
on the security.

announce: http://www.goffi.org/post/2014/02/26/Salut-%C3%A0-Toi-0.4.0
official website (new address): http://www.salut-a-toi.org

Goffi


From goffi at goffi.org  Fri Feb 28 23:01:31 2014
From: goffi at goffi.org (Goffi)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 23:01:31 +0100
Subject: [dev] =?utf-8?q?=5Bfr=5D_quelques_reflexions_=C3=A0_propos_de_la_?=
	=?utf-8?b?c8OpY3U=?=
Message-ID: <40efbaae51fb18b437cea669b91f36d4@mail.goffi.org>

Salut,

premières réflexions en vrac à propos de la sécu:

- il y a deux choses à gérer: la sécurité normalement pour un 
utilisateur, où la saisie de mot de passe en cas de chiffrement de la 
base ne doit pas être trop gênante, et la sécurité pour Libervia qui 
gère plusieurs utilisateurs, et où nous allons devoir faire une entorse 
à notre politique du « tout le métier côté backend » car les messages 
doivent être chiffrés avant que les administrateurs du backend puissent 
les lire.

- dans Debian il y a le paquet python-potr pour gérer OTR, et la bonne 
surprise c'est que c'est du Python pur, autrement dit on peut espérer 
l'utiliser directement dans libervia. Pour GPG ça risque d'être plus 
compliqué, mais on peut peut-être le laisser de côté dans un premier 
temps

- On va devoir laisser la possibilité d'utiliser un mot de passe du 
profil indépendant du mot de passe XMPP. Nous pouvons utiliser le mot de 
passe du profil comme clef à rentrer à chaque fois dans libervia, 
servant à chiffrer les messages en base de donnée, de manière à ce que 
les admins ne les connaissent pas (mais on ne peut garantir que la 
version du backend gérée par les admins n'a pas été modifiée).

- pour le certificat de libervia.org, CAcert.org semble être la 
meilleure solution: connu, compatible avec notre philosophie, gratuit, 
et reconnu par les tests de sécurité de la XSF: https://xmpp.net/

- une implementation de Jingle serait probablement une bonne idée aussi 
pour le chiffrement (sans oublier la copie de fichier)

- le statut de la conversation chiffré/pas chiffré doit apparaître très 
clairement à l'utilisateur.

- quid du chiffrement des microblogs ?

Si vous avez des choses à ajouter, allez-y :)

++
Goffi



From matthieu.rakotojaona at gmail.com  Fri Feb 28 23:14:23 2014
From: matthieu.rakotojaona at gmail.com (Matthieu Rakotojaona)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 23:14:23 +0100
Subject: [dev]
	=?utf-8?q?=5Bfr=5D_quelques_reflexions_=C3=A0_propos_de_la_?=
	=?utf-8?b?c8OpY3U=?=
In-Reply-To: <40efbaae51fb18b437cea669b91f36d4@mail.goffi.org>
References: <40efbaae51fb18b437cea669b91f36d4@mail.goffi.org>
Message-ID: <1393625469-sup-2885@kpad>

Salut tout le monde,

> - une implementation de Jingle serait probablement une bonne idée aussi 
> pour le chiffrement (sans oublier la copie de fichier)

Pour ce point, Gajim [0] est tout-python et a implémenté Jingle [1], ca
pourrait aider. En plus, ils sont GPLv3 et utilisent eux aussi hg. Que
demande le peuple ? :)

[0] https://gajim.org/
[1] https://trac.gajim.org/wiki/JingleFileTransfer

-- 
Matthieu Rakotojaona
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